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Eric & Melanie Barger

Ministry Update - July 18, 2006

 

Greetings!

Be sure to read the emails below. They reflect the wide scope of topics and will help you understand some of the opposition that we face on a daily basis.

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The Misconceptions of Apologetics Ministry

Dear Eric,

First let me say that it is wonderful to see the strength and devotion you show towards our saviour Jesus Christ.

It seems to me however that your energy would be better spent in bringing the gospel of Christ to people in areas that would not otherwise have the opportunity, rather than trying to crush the faith of those who already have a belief in him, regardless of whether it agrees with your personal interpretation of the bible or not.

I strongly recommend you obtain a copy of the DVD "Bullhorn" from Rob Bell of Mars Hill Bible Church's "NOOMA" series and seriously think about how this relates to you and your website.

I am certain your intent is one of love and concern, however in reality your message comes across as one of hatred and intolerance, an image which is hardly positive in bringing people to Christ.

Finally I would like to say that having only read a small amount of your websites content I have already discover that it is poorly researched and misrepresentative of the faiths which you are attempting to attack. This leads me to seriously doubt whether you have even read The Koran, The Book or Mormon or any of the other books of scripture you have attempted to discredit.

Above all Jesus taught us to love others. Your website hardly promotes this view.

Kind Regards
Russell (Australia)

Eric Responds:

Hello Russell,

I would like to say that I appreciate the opening comment but I have received far too many backhanded compliments over the years I've been doing this.

Now, lets see what you said...

It seems to me however that your energy would be better spent in bringing the gospel of Christ to people in areas that would not otherwise have the opportunity, rather than trying to crush the faith of those who already have a belief in him, regardless of whether it agrees with your personal interpretation of the bible or not.

I assume you are supposing that Muslims, Mormons, New Agers and others are somehow saved merely because God indeed does love them too? Who is it that you are referring to who "already have a belief in him?"

You said
"personal interpretation"... I am merely following the ideal that the Bible is inerrant and alone is God's final word to mankind. My "brand" of salvation and Christianity in general is the historical model of what the Jesus Christ taught the Apostles to teach. Of course, one has to believe the Bible and hold to it alone as mankind's only accurate and reliable spiritual guidebook to follow implicitly what the Apostles modeled (i.e., the book of Acts and the Epistles). My that sounds so out of date doesn't it? It surely does not match what modern denominational spiritual liberalism espouses today. This is because they involved in the business of religion while merely calling themselves "Christians." Liberals and so many others want to make up their own rules and ignore what they dislike from the Bible. My contention is that we either believe (and follow) all of the Bible or we really don't believe it at all.

I am certain your intent is one of love and concern, however in reality your message comes across as one of hatred and intolerance, an image which is hardly positive in bringing people to Christ.

What you perceive as "hatred and intolerance" is most likely because you somehow think I "hate" people of other religions. The opposite is of course actually the case. If I didn't care about people - genuinely care - than I'd certainly never want to put myself in the position that being in this kind of ministry often places me in.

I do admit, however, that I am very intolerant of any and every religion that destroys people for eternity.

Finally I would like to say that having only read a small amount of your websites content I have already discover that it is poorly researched and misrepresentative of the faiths which you are attempting to attack. This leads me to seriously doubt whether you have even read The Koran, The Book or Mormon or any of the other books of scripture you have attempted to discredit.

OK, I need your input here. It is so easy to make a blanket statement like you have here. So, tell me where it is poorly researched. Give me exact pages and examples. Tell me where I misrepresented other religions. Again, page references and examples. I'm curious if you have done 20+ years of research on the cults and aberrant belief systems? I own, read and research the Koran, The Book of Mormon, etc., regularly. However, I do NOT refer to them as "scripture."

Above all Jesus taught us to love others. Your website hardly promotes this view.

It would appear that you have no concept of the Biblical precedent of apologetics. You refer to "Our saviour Jesus Christ." I am curious what that means to you? Is He indeed the only way to be saved? Only you can say what your belief system actually is for sure but perhaps you are adverse to this kind of ministry because you are an inclusionist or a universalist or have fallen for the fallacy that there is more than one way to be saved. Perhaps you are LDS. In which case I would ask "which Jesus" are we talking about...the one whose teaching is reflected in the New Testament or the one the Apostle Paul warned of in II Cor. 11:3-4?

Whatever belief system you adhere to, it is obviously one that is simply adverse to the complete council of God's Word.

The Apostle Paul makes it clear that one of the qualifications of being a Christian leader is to (by sound doctrine) shut the mouths of those who present adverse and deceive teaching which has the capacity to subvert entire families from the faith. (Titus 1:9-16)

He says: "rebuke them sharply." (v.13) There are many other passages I could site but suffice to say that New Testament Christianity is not about acceptance of all belief systems, in fact, quite the contrary.

Jesus indeed did teach us to love others. Exposing false beliefs has NOTHING to do with how much we may love the people. In fact, pointing out the errors - which send untold numbers of people to an eternity in hell each and every moment - is actually the most loving act I can imagine provided that in doing so we point them to the Lord Jesus and His unique saving grace and mercy.

The Bible calls Christians to "contend for the faith", i.e., exposing false belief systems that are eternally damning to the souls of men. It is simply our task to follow this admonition no matter how disturbing it may be to some.

I'll close with a thought from G. K. Chesterton who wrote:

"There is a notion abroad that to win a man we must agree with him. Actually the exact opposite is true. Each generation has had to be converted by the man who contradicted it most. The man who is going in a wrong direction will never be set right by the affable religionist who falls into step beside him and goes the same way. Someone must place himself across the path and insist that the straying man turn around and go in the right direction."

Thanks for writing.

Eric Barger
www.ericbarger.com

 

Breath of Fresh Air!

Eric,

I heard you last year at the Chicago Sunday School Convention and had bought a few of your books...which inspired me to grow in Christ to new heights.

So it was like a breath of fresh air to receive your newsletter. The information is vital and we are blessed to have gleaned from what God has shown you. Thank you! God's blessings of grace and peace be abundant to you.

Lois

 

A Second Breath of Fresh Air!

Eric,

Steve and I really enjoyed seeing you in Rockwall (TX) recently and are being thoroughly blessed by your newest video and the audio on the death and resurrection of Jesus. You really have a unique ministry. Thanks for bringing forth the TRUTH to a mixed up and whacked out world. What a breath of fresh air you are! Our best to Melanie. We love you guys!

- Joanne

 

Ignorance

Barger,

Your ignorance boggles the mind. Stop peddling your hate religion.

- GF (England)

 

A "Just the Right Time" Email

Eric,

Thanks seems like a small thing to say.

I appreciate you sending me the email on the Mormons.

My brother in law was going to their church at the time and you seemed to send the email JUST AT the right time.

I forwarded the email on to him. And to make a long story short. He has come back to the TRUTH. He was raised in a Pentecostal Holiness Church and has always known the Truth but as he got older has researched everything from Budda to Hinduism to Mormons.........

I just praise My Lord and Savior that this past Saturday he gave his heart back to God and told me he hasn't felt the spirit like that in YEARS......

To God be The Glory.......Thanks for ALL you do for God to help reveal the truth to others in need...

Love in Christ
Gina

Eric Comments:

It is letters like this that help us persevere in this ministry no matter how strong the demonic or human oppostion may be...

 

More Christians Defending Witchcraft

Dear Mr. Barger,

I have read your article on Harry Potter. I will be straight up with you- i disagree. for one, yes there is witchcraft in it, but not real witchcraft. It is nothing that real witches ever use- it's pure fantasy. And of course you disagree with fantasy. However, C.S. Lewis used fantasy, J.R.R. Tolkien use fantasy and so thousands and thousands of other use fantasy and magic. Yet you are not writing against them, or at least not that I have seen. you might say that they, being C. S. Lewis used them to praise Christ. True, but never once have I read in Rowlings something that denounces Christ. ALways, the good characters use magic for good. Vice versa for the bad ones. Moving along, you mentioned all the bad things that the characters did right? Now I have to ask you, are even good people perfect? As kid, haven't we all flounted authority, or told a whopper? And if you think about it, if Harry was all perfect, never messing up, never feeling afraid or sad, or stupid, he wouldn't seem that real would he? same with all the other characters. kids, teens, even adults relate better to people who aren't perfect. Because you see what makes Harry a hero is that he looks past all that and does what he needs to do. in the books he has the world on shoulder, yet he does not back down. People admire that. Instead of thinking about his loss, the presure, the danger, he thinks about what is best for others. Yeah it may sound cheesy, but its true. And between the lines, you can see God. In the first and fifth book, Dumbledore say that love is greater than death, and that only thing that kept Harry from dying is love, cause you see, Harry's mother died for him. So in the first book, Voldemort couldn't touch him-literally because the love of his mother was in his very skin. "No greater love than this, that a friend lays down their life for a friend." And when you think about it, isn't that what Christ did for us? He died for us so we could live. The devil cannot touch us, because of Christ's love. yeah he can tempt us, hurt us, put us down, but cannot touch us. There are more fleeting images of God, the faithful(wormtail) who betrayed Lily(Harry's mother) and James. The sign of slytherin is a serpent, the sign Gryfindor is a lion, and so much more. So don't tell me that Harry Potter books are evil. I respect your opinion, but please, please give J.K. Rowling's books a chance- read them. Or read Connie Neal's book What's a Christian to do with Harry Potter. John Granger also has an excellent book on Harry Potter too.
Please write back!
godsangel

Eric Responds:

Thanks for writing!

I am not certain if you read my book or which of the articles on our website but I suggest that you read the following very carefully.

www.ericbarger.com/potter-christians.htm

Also, please examine:

www.ericbarger.com/9prac.htm
www.ericbarger.com/christians.occult.htm

When God condemns the world of the occult, he condemns ALL of it. (please see the reference about Deuteronomy 18 in the article.) Since you are willing to invest the time to read the huge Potter books, I hope you'll invest a little time to understand how your view is in such complete disagreement with the Bible.

I don't claim to know it all by any means but I do know that many, MANY Christians are deceived about this issue. I have examined the Potter novels very carefully and have concluded that not only do they present witchcraft in a positive light but that the morality and character presented by the heroes does not present the absolute standard that the Bible dictates for us as Christians. Also, there is no such thing as "white" or good magic. Supernatural power is only defined by the source of the power. It is either completely good (coming from God) or completely evil (satanic). Potter nowhere gives God glory and if Rowling had done so, it would not have been valid given that she used so many occult practices (endorsed or performed by the heroes).

Have we all sinned? Of course, but why are you trying so hard to defend heroes are obviously do not attempt to live by the standards God expects us to ascribe to?

Also, since when is Satan not able to "touch" us? If we decide to operate our lives by our will and standards and not by complete submission to God we have opened our lives up to sometimes subtle and sometimes very direct attacks. I contend that many Christians who have endorsed and filled their hearts with so called "positive occultism" have actually sabotaged God's blessing, provision, healing and protection. How can we say we love God and then try and justify practices and ideals that His word is so very clearly against? I have personally seen the unbiblical confusion that Connie Neale and John Granger's books have caused. Miss Neale and I have been guests on the same radio program. Do I think she is a Christian? I don't know. Are her views biblical? Absolutely NOT.

As for CS Lewis and Tolkien... I am very concerned. Please read: www.ericbarger.com/lotr.c.c.2.htm

Thanks again for writing and for studying God's word. That's the only way you or I will ever know what positions we must take on this and other important issues in life.

Bless you!

Eric
www.ericbarger.com

 

Another "Deeply Disturbed" (Christian) Harry Potter Fan...

I have a few questions for you. In your website, you state that Harry Potter is bonifide Witchcraft. If you could explain that, I would be delighted. The occult, real life magic, is based upon satan is it not? Harry Potter isn't. In fact, it's not based on any divine power like a god or demon. And be realistic. Real witches cannot possible blurb some magic words, wave a wand, and transform a rat into a goblet. If you think this is possible, then I am very concerned for you. Before you made this website, did you actually read the books? Do you even know what your talking about? I don't think you do. Never in my entire life have i read anything so rediculous as the ignorant information on your sight. I'm sorry for bashing you so, but i've had plenty of instances where i've had to actually defend my beliefs in Harry Potter since im a Christian. But i regret nothing i've written in this Email. Simply put, you must be ignorant and blind to obvious fact to consider that Harry Potter is the occult and therefore promotes real witchcraft. Are you bashing anything else? What about Huckleberry Finn? I could easily picture you saying that it promotes racism. I can also picture you saying that Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, etc are all the devil. But of course, i think the tooth fairy and Santa Clause are stupid and id never tell my children about those lies. But, i would let them read harry potter when they reach a mature enough age to discern from fact and fiction. Obviously, you haven't reached that maturity yet. I feel sorry for you. And to close, i leave your site feeling deeply disturbed at you view.

Eric Responds:

Lance,

You really don't think I am offended by your comments do you?

I am so glad you are disturbed. I hope you are disturbed enough to study God's word on this issue.

No, many practicing occultists (those in witchcraft in particular) do not acknowledge Satan.

If you doubt the power of witchcraft then you obviously know NOTHING about it. (Ever seen a demon possessed person who was manifesting Lance? It'll make a believer out of you that witchcraft is no play thing and that there is NO SUCH THING as "white" magic.)

Since you are a Christian, please read - VERY CAREFULLY these two pages.

www.ericbarger.com/potter-christians.htm

www.ericbarger.com/emailers/update1-20-05.htm

Is it just me or does no one else claiming to be a Christian understand how clear God's word is concerning His children advocating or participating in the promotion of witchcraft? (This includes being entertained by it.) Who gives a rip how popular, well written or fascinating ANY book is. If the Bible forbids it and you care what God says then its up to you to avoid it.

Lance, I have been exposing the occult longer than you have been breathing. You need to get your blinders off and read your Bible.

Eric
www.ericbarger.com

 

Finally, Somone Who Agrees About Harry Potter!

Eric,

In reference to your Harry Potter comments, there are a lot of us out here who agree with you and we are getting the same treatment. Much prayer is needed I think and much love and patience. We are praying but of course, there is always more prayer needed. Keep looking up and thank you for staying true to God's heart rather than man's heart. With deep respect,

Vicky


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